• Tango777
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      717 Version: 1.0.9.27

      MCDU Report Category: Function Related

      Departure Airport (ICAO): KGRR

      Arrival Airport (ICAO): KDTW

      Departure Runway: 26L

      Arrival Approach and Runway: 22L

      Full Route: VIO POLAR6

      Current Leg: AAMMO

      Cost Index: 85

      Cruise Flight Level: 15000

      Zero Fuel Weight: 93.04

      Gross Weight: 105.0

      Minidump: https://forums.tfdidesign.com/uploads/

    Enroute to the AAMMO intersection when I selected the runway for landing in KDTW and the autopilot on NAV mode instantaneously made a 45 degree bank turn to the left sending the plane off course, but NAV mode was still engaged. The MCDU still showed direct AAMMO, but I had to go to select DIR INTC and input a direct course to AAMMO and the plane eventually got back on course. The plane was still level at 15,000 ft.

    This is nothing new, but I wonder when the 717 does this, why always a hard immediate bank to the left? Since something in the programming of the 717 is still a bit off, why not a wrong turn to the right?

    P.S. The MCDU still has a font problem when inputting the flightplan, so I am attaching a screenshot.

    MCDU-font-problem_Continues.jpg

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    Enroute to the AAMMO intersection when I selected the runway for landing in KDTW and the autopilot on NAV mode instantaneously made a 45 degree bank turn to the left sending the plane off course, but NAV mode was still engaged. The MCDU still showed direct AAMMO, but I had to go to select DIR INTC and input a direct course to AAMMO and the plane eventually got back on course. The plane was still level at 15,000 ft.

    I need more information on this; the exact step by step to replicate. Also screenshots to show the before direct, after direct path drawing would be good.

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    16 hours ago, Joshua Che. said:

    I need more information on this; the exact step by step to replicate. Also screenshots to show the before direct, after direct path drawing would be good.

    I filled out every part of the form that you require for submissions like this, and I explained the event. I have reported happenings like this before, but this time are you asking me to replicate the flight and write down every button or switch that I touch from take off to touch down?

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    On 5/28/2018 at 3:12 AM, Tango777 said:

    I filled out every part of the form that you require for submissions like this, and I explained the event. I have reported happenings like this before, but this time are you asking me to replicate the flight and write down every button or switch that I touch from take off to touch down?

    The reason why I request step by step is because the information give is not sufficient to show what EXACT steps you took. I do not know when exactly you executed the flight plan change during your flight (which waypoint were you travelling to? at what altitude? what was the prior entry before? any discons inserted before that is cleared? any waypoint in the approach deleted? etc etc). Its also why I request screenshots as much as possible, or even better a video of the flight from the start to the event as that way you dont have to list each individual step you took.

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    On 6/10/2018 at 7:41 AM, Joshua Che. said:

    The reason why I request step by step is because the information give is not sufficient to show what EXACT steps you took. I do not know when exactly you executed the flight plan change during your flight (which waypoint were you travelling to? at what altitude? what was the prior entry before? any discons inserted before that is cleared? any waypoint in the approach deleted? etc etc). Its also why I request screenshots as much as possible, or even better a video of the flight from the start to the event as that way you dont have to list each individual step you took.

    First of all I suggest that you guys expand the questions under MCDU > Predictions.

    If you take time to read my initial opening post you will see that I have already answered your first 2 questions that you are asking me here. I typed as clearly as possible that my next waypoint was AAMMO (the waypoint I was travelling to). I also gave you my altitude, FL150, aka 15,000 feet.

    As for your other questions:

    The prior entry (waypoint) was BUTRR per the flightplan that I initially gave you in my opening post.

    Yes, a couple of waypoints per the STAR were deleted because KDTW had south operations at that time and therefore are not required. But those couple of waypoints that were deleted were not waypoints I was flying to, they were down the timeline. Again, I was flying direct to AAMMO.

    What is a good freeware recording software for me to video tape a flight?

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    On 6/13/2018 at 7:05 AM, Tango777 said:

    What is a good freeware recording software for me to video tape a flight?

    On Windows 10, Xbox Game DVR is good enough. On Windows 7, OBS, but you need a bit of setup to get it right. If you have Nvidia Graphics Card, GeForce Experience has a built in recorder.

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    First of all I suggest that you guys expand the questions under MCDU > Predictions.

    I usually expect users to post screenshots of the issue as its way easier for them to print screen than type out everything in detail. However, in this case, this issue requires a certain number of specific steps in order to replicate the issue - ie, direct at a particular distance from waypoint etc. Henceforth, I would prefer multiple screenshots or screen recording.

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    12 hours ago, Joshua Che. said:

    On Windows 10, Xbox Game DVR is good enough. On Windows 7, OBS, but you need a bit of setup to get it right. If you have Nvidia Graphics Card, GeForce Experience has a built in recorder.

    I usually expect users to post screenshots of the issue as its way easier for them to print screen than type out everything in detail. However, in this case, this issue requires a certain number of specific steps in order to replicate the issue - ie, direct at a particular distance from waypoint etc. Henceforth, I would prefer multiple screenshots or screen recording.

    The screenshot I submitted when I started this thread shows a "font" problem in the MCDU. Is that problem fixed now in the latest beta version?

    The next time I fly the 717 I will use the video recorder by Nvidia.

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    On 7/3/2018 at 12:51 AM, turbofandude said:

    @Tango777 The insane text overflow should be resolved, yes.

    I flew the 717 a few days ago (latest version) and when assigned a runway, while the ap was flying in NAV mode per the flightplan, and clicking on the assigned runway in the MCDU inserting it into the flightplan, the plane disengages NAV mode on its own and immediately banks to the right.

    In my case it does not matter if you are on a leg that is VOR to VOR, flying upper level jetway, etc. This problem now happens every flight. Unfortunately I was not filming.

    Is the MCDU in the 717 identical to the MCDU in the MD-11?

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