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CTD also with P3D 4.4

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With the last update of P3D the 4.4 we continue with the CTD in view changes.
Will we have to continue with the trick of the double image?
Will you be able to fix it?
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I just got a CTD w/o even changing views but simply by panning around the cockpit (using TrackIR).

This is becoming very frustrating. Is there any indication if LM solved the issue? Working on solving it? Can someone point to the thread?

I am certain it is not GPU related since it occurred with my previous 970 and still occurring after upgrading to a 1080ti.

 

Thanks,

 

 

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I just flew the plane on a little 354 nm.  Everything is working perfectly on it.  Are you guys using a 3rd party camera view software.  I know there are a few that need updating. I have Chaseplane and they've already updated theirs2018-12-2_6-31-46-349.jpg

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A couple of days ago I did two flights and everything seemed to be operating as it should, changing views, everything. I use EZDok and have upgraded to the P3D4.4 beta version. After updating P3D to v4.4, when I change between inside forward cockpit view to any outside view it is working fine. When I change from the normal pilot view and look up (using EZDok) at the Overhead view I get a fast paced flickering \flashing and cannot use my mouse to click anywhere. The same goes if I look down at the Console views for Throttle, radio Stack or FMC's. So. it seems that when I want to look around inside the VC Cockpit I get this violent flickering\flashing. I do not get a CTD like others have reported, just the flickering\flashing. Even without EZDok it happens when I pan around the cockpit.

 

Regards

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P3d 4:4 so far so good i took off from rpll flew in circles PROVOKING a CTD by switching views on purpose to see if a CTD=none i flew 1/2hr, and i left the FMS basically blank- i suspect it could
CTD if fully info entered =why ?just a hunch? -hope im totally wrong =flew  around manilla with the high end pay scenery i got decent frames on an average rig, no CTD but perhaps a lot more testing with fully loaded FMS and bounce around s/e asia =kai tek =-taiwon/ singapore all payware and we see?but so far =so good!

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50 minutes ago, barbarotto said:

P3d 4:4 so far so good i took off from rpll flew in circles PROVOKING a CTD by switching views on purpose to see if a CTD=nonei flew 1/2 and i left the FMS basically blank i suspect it good
CTD if fully info entered =why just a hunch -hope im totally wrong =but ar least around manilla with the high end pay scenery i got decent frames on an average rig no CTD but perhaps a lot more testing with fully loaded FMS and bounce around s/e asia kai tek =-taiwon singapore all payware and we see?but so far =so good!

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Are you using any camera addons?

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Can confirm, had the same CTD on view switch in 4.4 now. Re-installed the 717 from scrtch as well just to be sure. Such a shame...

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My experience since 4.4. PHOG-PHNL 1.7 hrs, KSEA-KPHX 3 hrs, KTPA-KJFK 3.1 hrs, KSFO-KSEA 2.2 hrs, KSEA-KATL 2.1 hrs. No CTDs on any of these flights with quite a bit of view switching. I'm not using any third party camera utilities and my CPU is not overclocked. For me, at this point, I guess I'm "cautiously optimistic". 

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I did a complete OS reinstall and installed 4.4 fresh and decided to take the 717 again to see if my issue with CTD is solved.  I did YYZ - MSP without any issue and started feeling very happy but then as I pulled up at the gate and went in the VC at MSP my sim locked up, sound played and CTD...  I also experienced very strange sporadic FPS fluctuations where at times I'd get 8FPS on the external model for brief periods but then suddently it would go back to high FPS of 60 - 130FPS.  Very strange!  This is without enabling or disabling any lights or anything.

Loaded up again at YYZ only to have an insta-CTD on entering the VC.  For the record I am using ChasePlane.

Now, instead of no errors in the Event Viewer I'm getting KERNELBASE.DLL errors when this happens.

First crash:

Faulting application name: Prepar3D.exe, version: 4.4.16.27077, time stamp: 0x5bfdbb35
Faulting module name: KERNELBASE.dll, version: 10.0.17763.134, time stamp: 0x1659a33b
Exception code: 0xc0020001
Fault offset: 0x0000000000055299
Faulting process id: 0x28fc
Faulting application start time: 0x01d48d5007d0e088
Faulting application path: D:\P3D\Prepar3D.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Windows\System32\KERNELBASE.dll
Report Id: 0e30d260-2031-4523-bc28-add09119b806
Faulting package full name: 
Faulting package-relative application ID: 

Second crash:

Faulting application name: Prepar3D.exe, version: 4.4.16.27077, time stamp: 0x5bfdbb35
Faulting module name: KERNELBASE.dll, version: 10.0.17763.134, time stamp: 0x1659a33b
Exception code: 0xc0020001
Fault offset: 0x0000000000055299
Faulting process id: 0x4564
Faulting application start time: 0x01d48d6639e1eef2
Faulting application path: D:\P3D\Prepar3D.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Windows\System32\KERNELBASE.dll
Report Id: efb32836-c457-4d35-8725-2a7e0e8078d7
Faulting package full name: 
Faulting package-relative application ID: 

 

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On 12/2/2018 at 6:34 PM, canadagoose said:

A couple of days ago I did two flights and everything seemed to be operating as it should, changing views, everything. I use EZDok and have upgraded to the P3D4.4 beta version. After updating P3D to v4.4, when I change between inside forward cockpit view to any outside view it is working fine. When I change from the normal pilot view and look up (using EZDok) at the Overhead view I get a fast paced flickering \flashing and cannot use my mouse to click anywhere. The same goes if I look down at the Console views for Throttle, radio Stack or FMC's. So. it seems that when I want to look around inside the VC Cockpit I get this violent flickering\flashing. I do not get a CTD like others have reported, just the flickering\flashing. Even without EZDok it happens when I pan around the cockpit.

 

Regards

Quoting my own post. I found I had LM's UI (User Interface) set at 512 TEXTURE size. I changed it to 1024 or 2048 and the flickering\flashing seems to subside substantially. I then went into EZDok and  reset my VC view points and saved the new setups. Using the higher texture size, the flickering\flashing has stopped when I change from O/S to inside (any) view. Maybe I'm lucky and found the right spot, but I think it is still a collaborative issue between TFdi and LM. I'm just surprised TFDi has not put a statement on this with regard to P3Dv4.4.

Regards

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I'm starting to think that we all are stuck with a plane that has a critical crash bug and the developers doesn't have a clue about how to fix it. Last information we had was that on next Prepar3D (that's 4.4) a fix was to be expected but TFDi never confirmed that the fix actally got into LM last build or even if the fix was 100% reliable. TFDi claimed that the bug is on LM Prepar3D side, but the truth is that we have a solid simulator on other birds we fly so there must be a way to make the 717 stable aswell.

TFDi, please, if something around your code is just not working as intenteded fix it, if you are unable to fix it please consider allowing us to refund the product. On it's current state is non-functional. I really love the plane, it's beatiful, flight model is good and it's totally worth the price you ask for it, but right now I am (we are) not able to use it because of this CTDs.

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I get the occasional view change crash in 4.4 as well. I think every time it's been going from external views to VC. Hope they can track it down!

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Using P3D v4.4 and aircraft version 1.1.1 and getting CTD when changing views. I noticed it primarily happens when I'm viewing outside of the plane and then switch to a cockpit view. I am also using ChasePlane. Any work arounds or confirmation that TFDi is working on a fix? Seems like I'm not the only one getting these CTD

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Have also gotten multiple CTD with 4.4 updated client now... with FMS loaded it will CTD, just about every flight  I did to test it experienced a CTD 😞 Even tried an additional external locked spot view while in virtual cockpit and still experienced CTD when switching views.

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On 12/24/2018 at 10:12 PM, brandonpoore61 said:

Using P3D v4.4 and aircraft version 1.1.1 and getting CTD when changing views. I noticed it primarily happens when I'm viewing outside of the plane and then switch to a cockpit view. I am also using ChasePlane. Any work arounds or confirmation that TFDi is working on a fix? Seems like I'm not the only one getting these CTD

Please use the square bracket keys to open up another internal VC view, and minimise it in the bottom corner. This is all we have until a finalised fix is produced by LM.

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17 hours ago, M3AP said:

Have also gotten multiple CTD with 4.4 updated client now... with FMS loaded it will CTD, just about every flight  I did to test it experienced a CTD 😞 Even tried an additional external locked spot view while in virtual cockpit and still experienced CTD when switching views.

Is this on view change, or just randomly?

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The same here...

Faulting application name: Prepar3D.exe, version: 4.4.16.27077, time stamp: 0x5bfdbb35
Faulting module name: ucrtbase.dll, version: 10.0.17134.319, time stamp: 0x40b70dec
Exception code: 0xc0000409
Fault offset: 0x000000000006e57e
Faulting process id: 0x2afc
Faulting application start time: 0x01d49e36afc46ab3
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\Prepar3D.exe
Faulting module path: C:\WINDOWS\System32\ucrtbase.dll
Report Id: 73e72831-64ec-4027-bde0-89ed12a75439
Faulting package full name: 
Faulting package-relative application ID: 

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I've experienced CTDs as well. The latest error was charged to KERNALBASE.Dll. In my case, I departed SFO for ACV. During the descent, as I was checking the cockpit (panning around in TrackIR) the program froze then CTD.

 

I am willing to test if there are potential fixes.

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To be honest the lack of statement from Tfdi and vaugue promises regarding the view-change CTD is worrisome. In my opinion, having read all the real world 717 manuals, the Tfdi 717 is a really great simulation of said plane, all the major systems behave as they should, the engine start sequence was fixed in the latest update as well, it looks better than anything else on the market right now, animations are great, sounds are excellent and the flight model is believable - even though it's the default P3D/FSX one. The LNAV and PROF is also some of the best I've seen in flightsim so far, it tracks the pre-programmed routes and procedures beautifully and never got me in any trouble so far. The only thing that is a pretty big bummer are said CTD's. I have kind of accepted the fact that it is a VC only aircraft and flew it that way for a while, until I got a CTD in cruise when I minimized P3D to do something else (something I do without any problems with other addons). I also found that using the addon manager to set payloads etc. is amplifying my chances of getting a CTD for some reason. Without it I've often been able to switch views without any problems. With that being said, dear Tfdi team, if you can get this plane stable and solve all these CTD issues everyone keeps having then you'll have one of the best, if not the best, regional jet on the market right now. Solving said CTD should be a number one priority.

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